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>> anthony: what do you think white brazilians -- would they say the same thing? [ zora santos speaking portuguese ] [ cida speaking portuguese ] >> anthony: zora prides herself for preparing food in the tradition of the enslaved african women who were, in her view, the matriarchs of the minera cuisine. she cooks with a serious focus on vegetables and greens, ingredients from the yard, basically what her predecessors had to work with, and applies west african technique. this is angu -- a dish simply made of cornmeal and water or milk, cooked for hours. there's ora-pro-nóbis, a native green ve...

[ cida speaking portuguese ] >> anthony: ooh. >> uli: the catholic and protestants, they have similar ideology that the black people, right, should -- >> anthony: be satisfied now because it will pay off later. we'll get you next time. >> uli: because, yeah. exactly. [ band singing ] ♪ >> anthony: but you had huge success as a model. how -- how did this -- [ zora santos speaking portuguese ] >> cida: she said it does not fit.

Lines, african culture saturates all corners of the society. this is especially true of the food. looks good. superb. [ zora santos speaking portuguese ] >> anthony: zora santos is a practitioner of old-school afro-mineras cuisine. she traveled europe as one of the first black brazilian models in the '70s, but returned home to look inward, becoming an ambassador for independent black women in the kitchen and running her own catering business. joining us at the table are zora's daughter, catarina, and friends uli and cida. >> anthony: well, how african is brazilian cuisine in general? >> zora s...

Portuguese ] >> anthony: why? why? why? [ zora santos speaking portuguese ] >> anthony: everything in africa is so fundamental to everything that makes brazil awesome. i mean, i could say the same thing about the united states, but -- [ zora santos speaking portuguese ] [ cida speaking portuguese ] >> anthony: ooh. >> uli: the catholic and protestants, they have similar ideology that the black people, right, should -- >> anthony: be satisfied now because it will pay off later. we'll get you next time. >> uli: because, yeah. exactly. [ band singing ] ♪

Food. looks good. superb. [ zora santos speaking portuguese ] >> anthony: zora santos is a practitioner of old-school afro-mineras cuisine. she traveled europe as one of the first black brazilian models in the '70s, but returned home to look inward, becoming an ambassador for independent black women in the kitchen and running her own catering business. joining us at the table are zora's daughter, catarina, and friends uli and cida. >> anthony: well, how african is brazilian cuisine in general? >> zora santos: uh, 99%. >> anthony: what do you think white brazilians -- would they say the same th...