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>> the majority of the folks would agree with you. focus of the question is did russia have anything to do with the timing? >> i don't have a comment on that, because i would hope the russians, instead of trying to deny that it happened, i wish they would join us in condemning the attack. but whether they knew about it beforehand, i don't have any information to make a judgment on that. >> in terms of the syrian strategy, and you heard the commentary help, representative, about the way it has come about for this administration. do you believe that the syrian strategy coming from the white hous...

Because i was a defense attorney. i have yet to see they care about wins and losses and it could be a trap and he's a smart guy. when he needs to be, i've read his depositions he can be focussed and cogent -- >> sean: would you ever let the president -- i appreciate he wants to be up front and honest, i would never ever ever in a million years allow him to go before this witch hunt special counsel -- >> but he has no choice. can't invoke executive privilege. it's a legitimate investigation -- >> sean: don't you think there's enough bias and abuse in the special counsel he has legitimate legal ...

Attorneys should try to do because i was a defense attorney, i have yet to meet a prosecutor who cares about justice and fairness, they care about convictions and indictments. they are when my cough and loss column. this could be a perjury trap. the president needs to be careful about that but he's a smart guy. when he needs to be, i've read his depositions, he can be very focused and cogent. >> sean: would you ever that the president -- i appreciate he wants to be upfront, honest -- i would never in a million years, never, ever, ever allow him to go before this witch hunt special counsel. >> ...

Then i would have said thank you, mr. trump, for taking my boys out of china and bringing them back to the u.s. there's a lot of room on that plane. did he help the boys get out? i don't know. >> why do you doubt it? >> if i was going to thank somebody i would probably thank president xi. >> all right. that was one part of it. >> of 20 minutes. >> it went on and on and on. didn't get more cogent. joining us political commentators paul and alice and washington bureau chief for the "chicago sun-times" lynn suite. paul, to you, the president is in this back and forth with lavar ball. and you know...

American oversight, tracking the administration's ethics and potential conflicts or fraud targeting federal agencies including hud and the education department, the claims to be nonpartisan despite top officers having deep ties to the obama administration. abby: betsy divorce has a lot of critics but what if you say the proposals without using her name >> a cogent not determine a child's future, would you agree with that? >> i agree totally. abby: outrageous admission from people who love to hate her. clayton: all he wanted was a hug from his sister bleach how the internet is stepping in. abby...