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People like ted cruz who have been so out of touch. >> in that senate race, how much do you think it will matter when they look at ted cruz the person who took all of that from donald trump and then has just become a donald trump acolyte? >> well, you know, we make politics really more difficult than it need be. the truth of the matter is people tend to vote for candidates that they like, and that means the candidates they trust. if you look how ted cruz has flip-flopped here it's kind of hard to say you like him and trust him. the other interesting thing we point out about ted cruz, if you lo...

Roots campaign. and the great thing of what he's doing, he's not just connecting with base democratic voters but he's going all over the state. he's not counting out a single voter. he's spending a lot of ltime in rural texas and giving a run for people like ted cruz who have been so out of touch. >> in that senate race, how much do you think it will matter when they look at ted cruz the person who took all of that from donald trump and then has just become a donald trump acolyte? >> well, you know, we make politics really more difficult than it need be. the truth of the matter is people tend ...

He's working on a new book about the mccarthy era. great to see you again. >> thank you. >> i'm a layperson in this. i know one through line is the lawyer from new york named roy cone, he was an acolyte of mccarthy, he was one of the new york mentors of our current president, but my question to you is what are the similarities you are uncovering? >> someone said history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes. i have seen so many of these rhymes in this story. you start with just today, the release of the memo evokes february 1950 when mccarthy is in wheeling, west virginia saying, "i have here in...

Conversation. the walls would be -- >> i know that you are an acolyte of ronald reagan. ronald reagan understood that latinos particularly are instinctively entrepreneurial, capitalist, they could be republicans. donald trump kicked up, despite the worst president any candidate -- >> may i say something? you -- we just deported jorge garcia, he came here at age teni are we going to have 700,000 incidents of jorge garcias being deported as his citizen children cry and clutch his legs? come on. let's make a deal. >> i'm happy you mentioned ronald reagan because ronald reagan in 1986 got ruled. h...

Contrary point of view given what i do here. >> katie: we are grateful to you. >> juan: it so interesting because i thought what you said is right, the salacious materials was going to get attention but the fact is when you have people like steve bannon who was a trump acolyte saying horrible things, going to get some attention. >> rachel: i remember when obama had his recovery summer. it never happened. and i can't imagine that that had happened to donald trump. he would be mocked over that. >> katie: another network as saying under obama, there wasn't much to cover and there's just so much m...