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Becoming more than, i think, any time in our lifetimes, in modern history, becoming a joke. i don't want to give another -- >> howard, i disagree with you. no, no, no. it's not bipartisan. the fight between hillary clinton and barack obama was heavyweight territory. >> that's right. >> serious issues. the war was at the center of it, i believe. it is nothing to laugh at that. that was a dead serious contest. this is on the republican side and it's a clown show against a serious competition we saw. >> but why are they -- i don't think it's all accidental. i'm asking a question, not providing in...

>> well, congresswoman, let me ask you a more narrow question than who would you like to see. let me ask you this, can you size up a debate between the president, barack obama, and newt gingrich. how would that debate go on, say, over four nights on national television? >> well, i think it would be pretty clear, if voters in the republican primary decide that they want a consistent conservative, who's extreme on the issues that matter the most to middle class americans, than, you know, newt gingrich will be their guy, and you know, a debate between president obama and candidate newt gingrich w...

Comment by him. >> what in the world, this question, what is it -- you know, am i going to be -- if i say no, i'm not attracted to boys, that's not the truth because i'm attracted to young people, boys, girls -- >> yeah, but not sexually. you're attracted because you enjoy spending time -- >> right, i enjoy. that's what i was trying to say. i enjoy spending time with young people. i enjoy spending time with people. >> well, just why does sandusky keep talking? is he gaining support as he tries to defend himself? he writes for the "daily beast" and "vanity fair." thank you very much, for coming...

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