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Industry, remain silent and look like you are acquiescing. speak up and you are attack as a partisan. joining us now the president of a public relations firm in michigan. he left journalism so he claims which makes iman ombudsman to tell us all what to do now. mr. fournier, thank you for joining us. >> how are you doing? >> i'm good. i think this kmum probably hits you the way it hits me. i thought it was a smart observation. >> yes. >> it is a trap. i always tell people i am aware it's the a trap. it doesn't matter. the trap was built around me. i didn't walk into it. it just is. >> look, we ...

Affecting this many people. so i -- look, i cannot promise you that another missile attack will prevent assad from carrying out atrocities, especially with putin standing there propping him up. i do believe it is important to have some sort of response and that we do it with a united front. because if you look at what has happened in britain, with this targeted assassination using chemical weapons against a soviet defector and now you see some of the same actors there at least acquiescing into the use of chemical weapons against a broad number of people, this is an international problem which ...

Now the people who follow him also ignore the same, that's the problem. >> i really think that's obviously detrimental to people who are seriously violent situations and they need to be heard and this is a scourge that needs to be -- that needs to be mitigated. i think that if you look at this politically, though, we are far beyond whether or not president trump is going to change his view on this, represent victims. we're far beyond the hypocrisy of evangelical republicans. i look at this through the prism of congressional republicans. david's talking about goosing the energy of trump support...

Conversations i've had with aides as well, that he was going to essentially have this respected place in history, that he was going to be able to be treated in some ways like president obama was, that people were not going to make fun of him. when said something it was not going to be something that ended up on snl. what he's seeing, essentially, is that his secretary of state calling him a moron, reportedly. and seeing people make fun of him and laugh at him and people that he's supposed to be representing, you see american voters essentially saying that's just donald going on again. there's ...

Is coming more and more to light, it appears that we have the obama administration in its effort to seek a closer relationship with russian acquiescing a sale of materials that are strategic and that could certainly be argued place american security interests at some risk and all of this going on of course while -- unlike what you've just reported, this has been known for some time, but it seems to be coming into sharper focus at the moment and will be the subject of investigations going forward. democrats can scream a lot and they no doubt will that all of that is a diversion, but i'm beginni...