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So -- that is so on the outer fringes of those kinds of conspiratorial beliefs that even the people in the middle of those conspiracy theories consider it too nuts to act on. joining us now is ben collins, a senior reporter for nbc news. he covers disinformation and extremism on the internet. ben, thanks for being here, i really appreciate you making time. >> thank you. >> it is easy to sort of point and drop your jaw and be agog at this. but i feel like one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you about it is i feel like you've been smart about how these are our fellow americans and these are p...

Some real consequences. hick. that desire to look tough could have some real consequences. nick, thank ou. bruno bonnell is a politician in president macron�*s en marche party. hejoins us now. thank you so much for being with us this morning. the uk government says that, actually, the french vessels who are entitled to a fishing licence have got one. sure. it is surprising that france only got 50% of the licences when it they claim, if you consider in europe only 2% of the boats have not got a licence. no, let's be serious. 244 boats with a tending license, thatis 244 boats with a tending li...

But it has rejected some because they don't qualify. france is furious and has threatened to block british boats landing at french ports from tuesday. let's be serious, 244 boats with a pending license, this is not the treaty we signed when we dealt with brexit. the truth is that we have french fishermen losing 25% of their business every day. and, you know, it's something that we have to act on. this row could have an impact beyond fishing. france has threatened to increase checks from the uk and that could slow down trade over the channel. but ministers in london aren't backing down, saying ...

Let's be serious, 244 boats with a pending license, this is not the treaty we signed when we dealt with brexit. the truth is that we have french fishermen losing 25% of their business every day. and, you know, it's something that we have to act on. this row could have an impact beyond fishing. france has threatened to increase checks from the uk and that could slow down trade over the channel. but ministers in london aren't backing down, saying they are prepared to retaliate if france takes action. two can play at that game, is what i would say. we've said that, for now, we're not going to res...

Countries have over—ordered and they're overstocked and they're not getting the vaccines out quickly enough, so a lot of vaccines could be wasted past their expiry date, and we know that nobody is safe anywhere until everybody is vaccinated everywhere. i think that today you will pass this terrible figure — five million deaths already from covid — and what the world health organization is saying, that there will be another five million more deaths unless we act. we've had 245 million cases of covid. there could be 200 million more in the next year alone. and that's why we've got to act, ...