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Policy. they're amazingly heroic almost all the time. he was not, arguably. but what really gets me, is this what we decide to act on. >> right. >> this is the move that makes the most sense, after a shooting. this is the best we can do. like i say, it's often misunderstood, but it's true. only in america do you respond to something like this way. >> it's tough to talk about these stories, chris. you weren't here at the time. i'm sure you covered it with abc at the time. if there's one story that changed my life and changed me as a person, that's newtown. i remember being there. i remember the...

Did not. the only way that i can say it is there's no winning. i can't tell you if it's the right move or not. the legal process played out and that's what happened. >> it messes with my head. what are we saying? our first responders are extraordinary men and women on a ordinary basis. >> they have fear. they have everything. but they overcome it all the time. there's no need to reinforce the policy. they're amazingly heroic almost all the time. he was not arguably but what gets me is this is what we decide to act on. this is the move that makes the most sense after a shooting. this is the bes...

And, phil, you have been busy already with at least one tweet outgoing aimed at the bob woodward book. talk about that. what it says and how it matches against reality. >> well, the president is pushing back aggressively against the reporting and his tweet this morning was about libel laws suggesting that they should be toughened. but look. it is difficult for the white house and for the president to challenge woodward's credibility because he's written so many books and has a meticulous way of doing the reporting and the portrait in the book of president trump is truly chilling. it shows seni...

And that emergency manager's job was one thing, it was austerity. how do we save money and cut costs, and they decided that this poor, predominantly minority city, was too poor to get water from the great lakes anymore and they decided to save money by switching to the flint river until a new pipeline was to be built. >> now, you're not -- your job -- you're not some epa inspector. your job is not supposed to be this. why did you stick your neck out as just a doctor? >> yeah. >> to take this thing on? you had to break some rules and break some eggs to do that. >> yeah, so i'm a pediatrician, a...

Let's bring in our guests, david gregory and rachel dave. >> i want to go back to what we were talking about. the big question is about democrats. there are sticking points around what the white house will and will not accept, this concept of, you know, family migration, what they call chain migration. obviously border funding. so there's particular elements. this piece is being brought into it only because the president wants it there. because he -- this is a plan that was put in place in 2014 that a previous administration, obama administration, decided not to act on, which this administrati...