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With rosenstein and whitaker. matthew whitaker now the acting a.g., the man the president alternately says i knew nothing about and i knew everything about. for whatever reason, the chief of staff sessions at that time is in the meeting with rosenstein and the president and the president says where are we on going after clinton and comey? where are we on those things? now, what does that tell you about what he must know about whitaker? >> tells me nothing about what he must know about whitaker. >> how so? >> tells me what he wishes. tells me what he would like to see happen. >> he must know --...

>> should people be worried that this president thinks about going after his enemies by using the doj as if they were his tough -- >> worried, i wouldn't say worried. i think people should be dejected by it. worried -- >> that's a fancy word, mike, help me understand it. >> no, it's not. depressed. i think worried, you think there's an actual likelihood that the tanks are going to roll. i don't think there is. i don't think the d oj today or tomorrow. >> why would he put somebody like whitaker as the acting doj, acting a.g.? >> somebody like whitaker in what respect? >> a loyalist, somebody wi...

Intelligence work that got us to the fact where people decided on whole, by the way, with some congressional oversight, that said, yeah, that sure is osama bin laden. by the way, if you're going to risk invading another country to go after somebody that went after us at 9/11, this would be the time to do it. all of that, there's so much behind it. i guess what irritates me is the president had no notion of that history. >> right. >> where not only he attacked owl that effort but also attacked the man who helped design and, you know, showed great leadership and inspiration to the people who had...

Stone's associations, and this all concerns sort of the legality of the special's counsel's appointment at the time he was actually appointed by rod rosenstein. so what the special counsel was saying in the filing today was the appointment of whitaker does not affect the legality of the special counsel's appointment. it has nothing to do with that. from their perspective, they're going to continue going about their business like normal, continue to investigate as if nothing's changed. this doesn't actually answer sort of the larger looming question of whether ultimately the appointment of whit...

Said, yeah, that sure is osama bin laden. by the way, if you're going to risk invading another country to go after somebody that went after us at 9/11, this would be the time to do it. all of that, there's so much behind it. i guess what irritates me is the president had no notion of that history. >> right. >> where not only he attacked owl that effort but also attacked the man who helped design and, you know, showed great leadership and inspiration to the people who had to go do this work. >> of course as we learn time and time again, the president does it out of convenience. it worked for hi...