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Overpaid. they eventually do lose their jobs and go off someplace like china. there is no recourse for workers that are under paid. corporations like wal-mart are shifting costs to the public sector. one championed anti-affirmative action stuff has a ballot option in californiat that will raise minimum wage in california because he wants to pay what they are worth. >> why not $14? why not $16? >> why not none according to you guys? >> why not $20. >> you don't have to convince me. >> that would keep up with inflation from 1968. completely rational. >> it doesn't matter what you think. >> don't...

People wondering why, how did this happen? >> yeah, i was going to say, i saw richard curtis came out tonight with an interview in britain saying, to his mind, phillip seymour hoffman was the greatest character actor of his entire generation. >> i don't think you'll get much argument about that. i mean, if you look at the stuff he did, he could play the most villainous characters, just despicable. and somehow watching him, you were sympathetic with them, you understood them. and that is something that is so hard to do as an actor, and really very rare when you see that, if you look at his body...

Generation we've ever had to go by actor. the stuff he had done is incredible. as a director and writer, and the theater work he did. it's a staggering loss. and i think it leaves a lot of people wondering why, how did this happen? >> yeah, i was going to say, i saw richard curtis came out tonight with an interview in britain saying, to his mind, phillip seymour hoffman was the greatest character actor of his entire generation. >> i don't think you'll get much argument about that. i mean, if you look at the stuff he did, he could play the most villainous characters, just despicable. and someho...

Guys love him. women love him. >> he's a nice look young man. >> he's a dancer, you know. all this action stuff. the guy really knows how to center. >> for hollywood, blowing up the white house is something that director roland does very well. his films, including "independence day" have grossed more than $3 billion world wide. what is it about all these blowup big action movies you like? >> myself am still a little kid and i have fun blowing up things. the movie has to be fast, otherwise they don't like it. >> he sees more independents in his future. so "independence day 2", i understand that...

Stabbed, blown up, in water, in smoke and dust. >> you play the head of the secret service. >> i play a character viewed as heroism. channing tatum is a mega star in the makings. guys love him. women love him. >> well, he is a nice looking young man. >> he moves so great because he's a dancer. all of this action stuff he knows how to center. >> for hollywood blowing up the white house is something the director does very well. his film including independence day and day after tomorrow has grossed 3 million worldwide. >> he sees more independence in his future. >> so independence will be in the ...