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Despairing and wondering, does this mean karl rove has won and there's a permanent republican majority? the truth is we have, right now, very evenly balanced, roughly 50/50 politics. we've had that since at least 1994 when the republicans demonstrated they could actually win congress. ever since then -- >> -- you write that the tea party might make the process more inclusive? does it have anything to do with the tea party? >> i think it does have something to do with the tea party and here's how. if you go back to the inauguration of president obama, there were republicans like eric canter who...

One really matter, especially from a messaging form. >> i want to take a look at that straw poll trump just beat florida governor ron desantis, 70% to 21% in that straw poll desantis would hold a comfortable lead over the others if trump did not run cpac hasn't always in 2011, he was bued for suggesting ron paul was unelectable. this followed reporting from gabe sherman that found trump and ron desantis on a collision course. what does it say about how thist conference has evolved under thd influence of trump? >> i mean, it's always been a conference for the base and the activist wing of the r...

Activist base which has long been a fan of jeff sessions, particularly as it relates to immigration. so this might give donald trump a way out. he doesn't like to apologize. he doesn't like to say he was wrong. he's not going to do either of those things as it relates to jeff sessions but it does pose a possibility that would be intriguing for him if -- this is still an if he's ready to move on from sessions and the attorney general's office because look, saying he's disappointed is one thing. calling him out to resign is a different thing. the white house has not done that yet and let's see i...

Corporation to have religious rights over the rights of thousands of employees, female employees of hobby lobby who suddenly were not going to get this kind of insurance coverage. >> so respond to an alternate thee theory of what happened. this is a substantive decision i've come to and my colleagues have come to on the merits. it's about his judicial philosophy and another way of viewing this, he's tremendous organized pressure to put on democratic by the activist base that felt like any vote, it's fundamentally ill -- i certainly didn't feel any pressure. i think that's kind of an argument t...

Weren't even in the room. >> they are trying to be defiant of all things donald trump right now and you see knit tit in the protests in the sfreetreets, in grassroots, small dollar fund raising all of the activist base to have left, any fuel for the democratic party the activist base is sort of demanding the block aid of opposition that anything that donald trump is sending to capitol hill and this is where it comes a challenge to sort of figure out the which he is moves h-- chess moves and pir fights wisely. >> we also heard at the top of the white house daily briefing from donald trump's nat...