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Mr. owens, you have the job where all this action took place for years, unperturbed, no investigations of anything. you have read the inspector general's report about what happened in your old job. what do you read in the inspector general's report? what do you think the irs did wrong here? >> well, actually i couldn't find anything that suggested the irs had acted inappropriately, acted perhaps ineffectively in a couple of places, but not inappropriately. >> i have to tell you if you were on any other program in america, you would have just shocked the audience, but i have been saying that ov...

Organization division and julian epstein, democratic strategist, former counsel for the house judiciary committee. mr. owens, you have the job where all this action took place for years, unperturbed, no investigations of anything. you have read the inspector general's report about what happened in your old job. what do you read in the inspector general's report? what do you think the irs did wrong here? >> well, actually i couldn't find anything that suggested the irs had acted inappropriately, acted perhaps ineffectively in a couple of places, but not inappropriately. >> i have to tell you if...

Plinl ga political game. fortunate for us we got to see who he was before election day. >> and americans are not stupid. michael, haley barbour, the former rnc chair, made an interesting statement about rebuilding the republican party. i'll read it to you. he says we've got to give our political organizational activity a very serious proctology exam. we need to look everywhere. i guess that's where they need to start, is it? >> haley barbour is one of the smartest republicans out there with one of the most colorful ways of saying things. i think he's absolutely right. they were just worked ove...

Kathleen, they are not being discredited. if someone, my fellow panelist says she has counseled women that have been sexually assaulted, then you should know better and understand why women don't come forward right away. there is a power dynamic that present them from speaking out. it's by someone they know and is more powerful than them. we are getting on bill cosby territory. when someone comes out and says they did the same thing to me. we hear it as a collective. hold on, wait a second. for the ones you allegedly counseled that were falsely accused, i question how many bragg eged about the...

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