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Confederate flag-waving racists, but the reality is that the real challenges around race are systemic in nature and they're embedded in our very societies about access to education, access to health care, life expectancy, the criminal justice system. there are full-blown systemic forms of racism every day, not as spectacular as charlottesville but they require the same amount of effort. if we're committed to rooting out and confronting racism in our society, yes, we have to address the sort of terrorism that occurred in charlottesville and at mother emanuel church in south carolina and we have...

Muler? it just wouldn't look good. >> that's right. that's right. and not only that, rod rosenstein wouldn't either. this byzantine effort to get rid of special counsel actualry has some reference point. you may remember that this president actually fired a deputy attorney general. recall when she wouldn't defend what was an unconstitutional travel ban, she was fired, and under her -- >> sally yates. >> vacancy, by 1998, the president found a senate confirmed replacement as a, quote, acting attorney general. so it's not all that impossible that we could see it. but, again, it's going to be -- ...

Jonathan swan, national political reporter for axios, megan murphy, editor of bloomberg business week, elise jordan, a "time" columnist and msnbc political analyst. who does this help? >> let's put the facts in context. he can talk all he wants about it advantaging the meramerican worker but all research says it does the opposite. we have a low unemployment rate as it is right now and a slow growth rate. immigration, legal immigration, actualry boosts the american economy, expands the economy, particularly at the lower skilled sector of the workforce where frankly it's difficult to attract ame...

Ongoing, here or there, intermittent, but -- >> i do have a couple that you did that actualry are some of my personal favorites. celebrity birthday, chris christie turned 50, he blew out the candles on his cake and he wished for another cake. >> i have done many fat christie jokes so governor, come on our show. >> i'm making the best effort i can. and sometimes i'm successful and other times i'm not. >> i've got hundreds more that you can read. >> and we have a better chair for you. >> my doctor continues to warn me that my luck is going to run out relatively soon. believe me, it's something t...

Weigh weight. >> i've made jokes about you, not just one or two, not just ongoing, here or there, intermittent, but -- >> i do have a couple that you did that actualry are some of my personal favorites. celebrity birthday, chris christie turned 50, he blew out the candles on his cake and he wished for another cake. >> i have done many fat christie jokes so governor, come on our show. >> i'm making the best effort i can. and sometimes i'm successful and other times i'm not. >> i've got hundreds more that you can read. >> and we have a better chair for you. >> my doctor continues to warn me that...