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Know what? it's not that easy. trump was ready to cut and run and get on to the next thing. but getting on to the next thing for reasons both politics and actuarials in the house requires getting this done. so the tax reform push is what's behind this. i think largely. the other thing, and i talked the a loft moderate members and other members in the house who were going through this process last week and now this week in the whipping process, there was one other simpler thing, not just the tax cut dynamic, but also just the simple words "we got to win one for the team." and you heard, that wa...

First stage of the tax cut in obamacare. and by the way, the senate might vepass this health care thing, and you won't have to live with the results. >> lawrence, i'm going say the two words that i know you like better than any other. you are right. actually, that's three words. >> i'll take it. i don't care how many words it is. you have the floor, john heilemann. take your time! >> i will say i've been making this argument, and others have been making this argument for several weeks now that this is the driving force behind the reviving the push to get this bill through the house after donal...

Years of age, that's 20 years of pensions. we're now looking at actuarials saying 40-year-olds will live to 80. you cannot pay somebody for 30 years of pension. it's impossible to save that kind of money and make the returns to do it. jenna: jim, thank you very much for joining us. it's an interesting situation and we think it reflects some of the other issues going on around the country. we appreciate it very much. >> thanks for having us on, jenna. gen jen we're also going to hear from one of the city workers notified he will lose his job, his name is steve bradford, he worked as a city swee...

Security. the bottom line is she's said she wanted to privatize it and phase it out. they go back and forth on this. listen to how wonky he gets and how she comes back at him. >> social security is a promise we have to keep. it takes care of seniors in their golden years. that's why i've worked so hard to protect social security. i feel so strongly about this that i took on the president of the united states when he tried to privatize it and we won that battle. social security is an important program. the actuarials at social security and also the cbo has said within the past month that social...