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Rhetoric and what is amazing to me, ari, in 2015 when donald trump announce the his candidacy for president by coincidence i happened to be working on a piece about white nationalism. this phenomenon that was bubbling around on facebook, on twitter, it was kind of -- and they found their presidential candidate and at the time, you know, that kind of language, the idea that somebody would be talking about it from the main stage of american politics was abhorrent and the idea he now gets up there on television and talks about it is a sign of how you have a body of americans who have been acultur...

Integrity of the white house, the integrity of our institutional process, and ultimately the danger in presents to this country because this is going to happen again and again and again and probably in far more serious situations than the one we're talking about now. >> what do you make of the defense that congressman rooney sort of offered, and i've seen other people offer a variation, which is basically this. the president is a culturated to new york real estate and deal-making. it doesn't have the same etiquette basically of washington, and he just doesn't understand what he's doing. he doe...

In comey's written statement that i took some exception, but i had to kind of check my own shame in that regard was when he said honest loyalty because that's essentially what i provided for colin powell when i prepared him for the 5 february 2003 presentation at the united nations. so i've seen these kinds of situations before, but this one is bizarre enough and yet in character enough that it makes me deeply concerned for the integrity of the white house, the integrity of our institutional process, and ultimately the danger in presents to this country because this is going to happen again an...

Institution, what is your sense of why that is? as somebody who has not been aculturated. >> well, i did come from the state legislature -- >> oh, good. >> people are facing foreclosures and unemployment, and i think if you want to look historically at that, the ratings of congress or state legislators definitely go down when the economy is down, and people are suffering and hurting right now. of course they look to the leadership to say solve the problems, and that's clearly not what is happening right now. >> do you feel like your colleagues across the aisle have -- are subject to the politi...