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Serious evolution in the case is this is where two of the old adages collide. follow the money and it's the cover-up. >> right. cohen also saying he is, quote, not just going to roll over, according to "vanity fair" and told friends supposedly being attacked and the family to suffer. laura, the fbi doesn't just raid an office for no reason. >> they don't. manafort you see is not rolling over. not working out as well for him in that strategy, however, as the cases continue to go on and every person accused of a crime has every right to defend themselves. interestingly enough michael cohen yet t...

Going now? >> we're getting very close to obstruction of justice for sure. one of my favorite adages is history doesn't so much repeat itself as rhyme. we're getting ready to rhyme with watergate. it's not the underlying crime. it's the coverup. that's why we've had four people indicted, two of whom accepted felony plea bargain deals. we're beginning to rhyme in terms of the famous quote by howard baker he famously asked what did you know and when did you know it. >> is that really what the crux of all this is coming down to. it's about timing with regard to obstruction of justice with what th...

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