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nuclear plant in ukraine and the situation needs to be treated with immense caution. he's just arrived in austria following his initial inspection of the plant, which has been now on bbc news, the media show. hello and welcome to this week's the media show. now, we're going to talk about news podcasts this week. there's been a very high profile launch. it's called the news agents. it's from global, and it's presented byjon sopel and emily maitlis, both big figures at the bbc before they left to set this up. emily maitlis has also been in the news because she gave a mactaggart lecture...

As the mythology suggest. i think that the one that rightly gets a lot of coverage and still gets a lot of debate relates to to iraq. and i think as bothjon and adam know, ifelt that was me taking a very, very strong stance against one piece of reporting by one journalist, who i will go to my grave saying was and is a liar and who coincidentally works for boris johnson. so i think that on the broader point, yes, adam is right, that we were more robust, but the reason for that goes back to the point i made earlier, the media ecosystem, a lot of it is still set by the written press, which is sti...

About stories nearly as much as the mythology suggest. i think that the one that rightly gets a lot of coverage and still gets a lot of debate relates to to iraq. and i think as bothjon and adam know, i felt that was me taking a very, very strong stance against one piece of reporting by one journalist, who i will go to my grave saying was and is a liar and who coincidentally works for borisjohnson. so i think that on the broader point, yes, adam is right, that we were more robust, but the reason for that goes back to the point i made earlier, the media ecosystem, a lot of it is still set by th...

About stories nearly as much as the mythology suggests. i think that the one that rightly gets a lot of coverage and still gets a lot of debate relates to to iraq. and i think as bothjon and adam know, i felt that was me taking a very, very strong stance against one piece of reporting by one journalist, who i will go to my grave saying was and is a liar and who coincidentally works for borisjohnson. so i think that on the broader point, yes, adam is right, that we were more robust, but the reason for that goes back to the point i made earlier, the media ecosystem, a lot of it is still set by t...

But this was a very long time ago. so that was a while ago. but alastair, you also tried to exert pressure on the bbc on a daily basis. did you ever feel that it was trying to appease you, to use the verb that emily maitlis chose in her speech? no, on the contrary. i think that, you know, i don't think i complained about stories nearly as much as the mythology suggest. i think that the one that rightly gets a lot of coverage and still gets a lot of debate relates to to iraq. and i think as bothjon and adam know, i felt that was me taking a very, very strong stance against one piece of reportin...