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Way where we have seen the trend line in the last few days in his -- favorable in his direction, this is something where he's taking all of those together and then just confronting the establishment. and the president, you know, he's weighed in at the last minute, but probably not, you know, time enough. i think it was out of a sense of panic than out of a sense of thought out strategy. that's why we're, you know, we have a lot of these folks like jeff flake speaking out because they do want to spend a message about the overall profile party. question is was it done in time. >> you know what i...

I was operating in a world where hillary clinton was going to beat trump. i'm sure it was a factor. i don't remember speakilling it out. she would be elected president. if i hide this from the american people, she would be illegitimate the moment this comes out. >> dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. >> there is fair criticism he should not have done that. that statement will not make democrats feel better. he is living through the consequences of his decisions. all of the complaints he is making about the president and all of the criticism he is making about the current oval office. he ...

Overture of getting to nuclear confidence on his side. what do you see being the potential knock on effects that would now unfold in that region? >> well, we're a little dammed if we do and dammed if we don't. if we can't get a negotiated outcome we're comfortable with, and so far we haven't been willing to explore it, we have two really dark futures. one would be one of going to war. with all that would mean for south korea and japan and the united states and the region and world economy for human life, you name it. the other would be if we were to live with it. in north korea that gradually ...

Is it a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't situation? >> it is, unfortunately, that's the role of the president. president obama, president clinton, president bush went through the same things. you can't figure out the perfect time to visit a disaster. i think what this underscores more than anything is the need for an effective and strong government. you know, the president has just been in office trying to erase president obama's legacy including hurricane programs that now the administration's trying to reconsider, flood programs and hurricane programs and slashing government programs th...

They just want to funnel money towards a potential win in 2018. i think it's a very sad thing that someone with her record and the amazing things she has accomplished over a long storied career has to stand up there and defend herself in that way. i'm not prepared to say it's her time to go, but certainly this is a conversation we should be having. >> she's been one of the best spoils for republicans and especially with hillary clinton off the stage. >> they need a new - - . >> they need somebody to pick on, y or to target. just like democrats do to paul ryan and she's really helpful in turnin...