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Of pickled in aspic. right? this is about how do we evolve, but that's what we've been busy doing. we are the broadcaster who has the biggest share of digitally. we are the broadcaster has the most of our business in streaming, whether that be amount of viewing or money that we make in streaming in the commercial sector. we've been very, very busy adapting to that change, way ahead of the competition. well, you say you've been way ahead of the competition. there are several areas where people could argue channel 4 could have gone further. let's start with one aspect of your plan, which is, in ...

The status quo or sort of ensuring that we remain kind of pickled in aspic. this is about how do we evolve, but that's what we've been busy doing. we are the broadcaster who has the biggest share of digitally. we are the broadcaster has the most of our business in streaming, whether that be amount of viewing or money that we make in streaming in the commercial sector. we've been very, very busy adapting to that change, way ahead of the competition. well, you say you've been way ahead of the competition. there are several areas where people could argue channel 4 could have gone further. let's s...

Of the public service broadcasting landscape here. and changes to the public service broadcasting landscape can't happen without that kind of debate. and presumably you would agree with nadine dorries when she says this is 2021, now 2022, of course, not 1982, she said, "the broadcasting landscape has changed beyond recognition." that's indisputable. that is indisputable. so tell me how you plan to change this broadcast, so you don't agree with the government's plans, but presumably you do agree change is necessary. channel 4 should never be standing still. in fact, channel 4 is like the broadc...

Amount of viewing or money that we make in streaming in the commercial sector. we've been very, very busy adapting to that change, way ahead of the competition. well, you say you've been way ahead of the competition. there are several areas where people could argue channel 4 could have gone further. let's start with one aspect of your plan, which is, in your words, to become a northern based broadcaster with the majority of our workforce based outside of london, 5,000 jobs created. you've been in thejob for, i think, four orfive years now. you could have announced that ages ago. well, what i a...

We evolve, but that's what we've been busy doing. we are the broadcaster who has the biggest share of digitally. we are the broadcaster has the most of our business in streaming, whether that be amount of viewing or money that we make in streaming in the commercial sector. we've been very, very busy adapting to that change, way ahead of the competition. well, you say you've been way ahead of the competition. there are several areas where people could argue channel 4 could have gone further. let's start with one aspect of your plan, which is, in your words, to become a northern based broadcaste...