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Decisions being made in washington and it really shouldn't come down to this last minute nonsense a day or two where there is this deadline. that's ridiculous. >> arthel: you're right that. is ridiculous. so that's, to me, more vexing for the public than them coming up with any kind of deal if it's going to be temporary or not. get over yourselves, do something, congress. michael, what do you say? >> i agree with you. the congress created this artificial deadline. no one else in the word said it had to be solved by today except they punts add problem from a year and a half ago. but an election...

For the other guy. that's what he's all about. that's not what i'm about. you have the choice in this country of doing something which politicians have been promoting for years. politicians get up and promise you all sorts of free stuff. all right? say i'm going to give you more and more stuff, and you won't have to pay for it. >> romney sort of trying to sort of dodge the issue. not talk about it, but he was peppered with questions about the various issues and some people expected that. suburbs of chicago. moderate republican women. these are key to romney not necessarily carrying a stat like...

Are lighting fires in the straight. is that what you are saying? >> no. change doesn't happen easily. they are not going to leave. the population has not been educated to the point of understanding jeffersonian principles. if we are going to help they we had into them to build institutions on the ground. >> people may be dying right now. do we have time to go through the whole process? >> that is the issue, the american add problem, we only pay attention for two weeks and we abandon them. that has to change. the long term sta stability is what we need to look at. >> great discussion and i thin...

Are lighting fires in the straight. is that what you are saying? >> no. change doesn't happen easily. they are not going to leave. the population has not been educated to the point of understanding jeffersonian principles. if we are going to help they we had into them to build institutions on the ground. >> people may be dying right now. do we have time to go through the whole process? >> that is the issue, the american add problem, we only pay attention for two weeks and we abandon them. that has to change. the long term sta stability is what we need to look at. >> great discussion and i thin...

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