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>> two reasons. one, he's the only one between gingrich, bachmann and perry he's only one running what i call a serious president. gingrich ran for brand-building potential. bachmann ran to get her name out there. if perry falls flat on his face, and santorum gets 30% and gingrich goes to th9% additio-- >> perry would be a fool to drop out before south carolina. >> he says he wants a third place finish. what if he's fifth or worse? >> i think -- i agree with matt that if it's extremely lopsided, if he gets 9%, i don't think you'll see him to soldier on because his day job is governor of texas....

Yoe -- >> and return the $15 million. >> two reasons. one, he's the only one between gingrich, bachmann and perry he's only one running what i call a serious president. gingrich ran for brand-building potential. bachmann ran to get her name out there. if perry falls flat on his face, and santorum gets 30% and gingrich goes to th9% additio-- >> perry would be a fool to drop out before south carolina. >> he says he wants a third place finish. what if he's fifth or worse? >> i think -- i agree with matt that if it's extremely lopsided, if he gets 9%, i don't think you'll see him to soldier on bec...

Certainty in the private sector and instead focus on eliminating the loopholes, the so-call tax expenditures. >> is there a basis for anything there? >> i hope that -- hope sprgs eternal. >> i want to come back tohis one point. the other side of the political spectrum, democrats would say look, this is not bipartisan failure. this is intransigence by the right. an unwillingness to stop protecting theealthiest americans. everybody would have their taxes extended unr the bush tax cuts under the president's plan, making more than $250,000. there's about $800 billion for the wealthiest americans t...