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>> thank you. leland: send it back. gillian: the first rule of a shutdown is congress always gets paid. i wanted to put that out there for you. now shall the discussion around the government shutdown today revolves around daca, lawmakers still at this very hour in the midst of the shutdown trying to hash out a deal that would give daca immigrants a more permanent pathway to citizenship. joining me is the director of immigration and cross-border policy, at the bipartisan policy center here in washington. theresa, well, you know what? i think we are going to actually toss this over to the senate...

Children's health insurance hostage. end this reckless shutdown that is inflicting needless uncertainty on our country. let common sense and cooler heads prevail. come to your senses, do the right thing, open this government back up. i yield. >> gentleman from wisconsin yield's back. gentleman from kentucky is recognized. pursue to-- >> pursue. >> that's speaker ryan with harsh, harsh words for democrats saying, quote, there is no reason for the shutdown and also saying senate democrats are willfully pushing the shutdown on our country. i'm going to turn it over to leland. leland: thank you. t...

Not shutting down, or have any problems until march and you already have a court case on it where they're filing, but our military is, our children's health insurance program is being shut down by schumer and all of these other items. >> the democratic leader in the senate, chuck schumer is claiming he tried to make a deal with the president yesterday that included a border wall and that president trump rejected it, but the white house legislative director is on the hill today, he says there was never an agreement and today, democrats are showing no sign of giving any ground in their position ...

Broad area of policies and we voted yes. the democrat demands at that time were for a clean cr. a clean cr. in fact, senator chuck schumer said we need a clean cr. that's what he this wanted, you shouldn't be holding the government hostage to politics, it will create governmental chaos and here we are with senator schumer holding the government hostage to his politics, immigration politics, and creating government chaos. leland: the entire republican party is saying that this is tying false immigration reform deadline to government funding, it's wrong, we'll fix daca later. so, everyone's cons...

Both sides of the aisle so solve the problem for dreamers. majorities on both sides, republicans and democrats support a pathway for the dreamers. the question is, what does that package deal look like? we've seen deals since the president ended daca in september, we've seen several pro tension deals come together and fall apart. the infamous meeting with chuck and nancy they thought they had agreed daca for border and a few days later, maybe that wasn't the deal that was made. we had a bipartisan deal that a group of senators negotiateded including senator gardner negotiated a week ago and sa...