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to do. >> yeah. >> they go down the hall and leave one of the shields behind, which supposedly was what they were waiting on, was all this equipment. but they still weren't making entry. >> that's right. >> they just heard additional shots fired. they still are not making entry. >> remind you, there have been 37 minutes between the last time we heard gunshots to now. the idea if they thought it was a bierarricaded situation or no longer an active shooter that is triggered, right? >> and it will be another half an hour before they make entry. >> i just want to talk about one of the vi...

37 minutes between the last time we heard gunshots to now. so the idea of if they thought it was a barricaded situation, or no longer an active shooter, that has now been retriggered. >> and it will be another half an hour before they make entry. >> i just want to talk about the victims, right? because i spoke to one of the mothers of one of the kids who survived. and she told me that her son recollects, remembers someone hearing a police officer say hey, you inside? do you need help? and the kid answers back yeah, we're in here. and then the gunman shoots and kills him. so that is h...

with gunshots going off. >> and the trauma this entire ordeal is leaving on such young children. their parents and a nation wishing to wipe away the pain. >> welcome to "the lead." i'm pamela brown in for jake tapper. we start today with an absolutely devastating admission about the school shooting in uvalde, texas. >> for the benefit of hindsight, where i'm sitting now, of course, it was not the right decision. it was the wrong decision, period. >> that statement coming from the thead of the texas departmet of safety. he said officers on the scene should have breached the classroom ...

Officer's pistol would shoot. traveling at that velocity, the damage that bullet can do to the human body, much less a fourth grader's body, is absolutely devastating. combine that with the fact that the ar-15 is a semiautomatic rifle, which means you can fire bullets as quickly as you can pull the trigger. there's no hesitation. there's no pulling a bolt back and manually loading the next round. that's why that weapon is so unbelievably so devastatingly dangerous in a mass shooting situation. >> we have to remind folks where this was happening. this is a small room. it's two classrooms kind o...

Round. that project exile exits the game at 3,000 feet per second. to put that in perspective, that's about three times faster than the bullet that normal police officers pistol would issue. so traveling at that velocity, the damage that that bullet can do to the human body, much less a fourth grader's body is just devastating. it's absolutely devastating. combine that with the fact that the ar-15 is a semiautomatic rifle which means you can fire the bullets as quickly as you can pull the trigger. there is no hesitation. there is no pulling the bolt back and manually loading the next round. th...