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Pulled out to try to get mr. porter a clearance, if that was at all possible? >> well, i think the process was done as precisely as it should have been done. you know, there's recognition that this vision occupies a position of importance in the white house, and so there's going to be emphasis on it. but it's also going to be a very objective process, and i think that's what really where the challenge is. bob is right again, too, i heard what the dni said what about the process being broken. there's actually been a lot of work to improve it. the challenge is there's so many people and so much ...

Do them. >> and as he rattled off those four different communications with the white house, is it fair to say that all the stops were pulled out to try to get mr. porter a clearance, if that was at all possible? >> well, i think the process was done as precisely as it should have been done. you know, there's recognition that this individual occupies a position of importance in the white house, and so there's going to be emphasis on it. but it's also going to be a very objective process, and i think that's what really where the challenge is. bob is right again, too, i heard what the dni said wh...

To say that all the stops were pulled out to try to get mr. porter a clearance, if that was at all possible? >> well, i think the process was done as precisely as it should have been done. you know, there's recognition that this vision occupies a position of importance in the white house, and so there's going to be emphasis on it. but it's also going to be a very objective process, and i think that's what really where the challenge is. bob is right again, too, i heard what the dni said what about the process being broken. there's actually been a lot of work to improve it. the challenge is ther...

Photograph and whatnot, that makes the adjudication process very difficult. and, you know, withdraw, who did drop the ball and why did it happen that way? >> and ashley, a word about mr. porter. as we've stressed this week, the title of staff secretary is one of those misleading titles. it's more accurately the deputy chief of staff, more likely the promotion he would have had had he stayed. documents, phone calls, communications with the entire web of the rest of the government. having put it that way and knowing what we know about these allegations in mr. porter's past, you've done some repo...

Relevance of this bill that the president is signing today. >> reporter: well, interestingly the veteran's affairs secretary there, shulkin, was a holdover from the obama administration. he worked at a level lower than the secretary level, but this is in fact, the president looking for continuity from the obama era to now to deal with this. and there was legislation done during the obama era, but this is also looking to sort of expand that and to try to deal with issues that relate to if there are identified to be problem employees at the va where they go through an adjudication process. it ha...