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People on the call. number two, have you ever had a president ask you as a political guy on the side to get involved in removal of the attorney general? >> no. it is so outside the box. it is certainly for someone like cory who is a campaign guy, a political guy. he's not an administration guy, he's not a government official, he's not someone connected to legal counsel's office, so what trump ultimately was looking for was a political solution as a legal problem. what he saw as an administration problem. he figures fine, let's put it in the same box. i will have cory make the call on sessions ...

It's sort of an escape valve for him. >> is it working? >> it's not really working very much. if you look at the poll numbers, republicans -- once he first started tweeting about mueller, republicans were like, oh, i have less trust in the investigation. since then, it's just sort of been static. >> because you see the outcomes, what's happening in the courts. so flynn admitted, catherine, that it wasn't entrapment, that he wasn't trapped, that he wasn't hoodwinked into lying to the fbi somehow. all you have to do is tell the truth, right? the truth will make you free as they say. it's not jus...

He wasn't trapped, that he wasn't hoodwinked into lying to the fbi somehow. all you have to do is tell the truth, right? the truth will make you free as they say. it's not just the president who is now pushing these conspiracy theories because she said even after he admitted it wasn't, sarah sanders says it was a trap. it's not just the president. it's the administration. this is an administration problem. >> yes. i mean for an administration that holds itself out as the administration of law and order, they have very confused ideas about what law and order entails. if agents know the answer t...

A good ceremonial meeting. a handshake. a commitment to move forward. and then sending experts, building the process that over time will make the peninsula safer, make the peninsula safer than it is today. >> we're running out of time, so mike, i'm just going to ask you something about your book, which i really do think is an important book. >> thank you. >> you talk about how the big problem, the central problem we face right now, in your view, and as i say, you have served actually -- probably more and more under republicans than democrats. you say is that the president trump is waging a war...

A commitment to move forward. and then sending experts, building the process that over time will make the peninsula safer, make the peninsula safer than it is today. >> we're running out of time, so mike, i'm just going to ask you something about your book, which i really do think is an important book. >> thank you. >> you talk about how the big problem, the central problem we face right now, in your view, and as i say, you have served actually -- probably more and more under republicans than democrats. you say is that the president trump is waging a war on truth, which means for you as a memb...