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We should point out, though, the census folks over at the commerce department, they've been working on doing this administratively for sometime now, and as a matter of fact, people over at the commerce department have been urging the administration to do this administratively and not do this through a census question. so there's been sort of a battle going on inside the administration over whether or not they would want to do this. but keep in mind, anderson, the attorney general william barr was saying as of earlier this week that they thought they still had a legal route in the courts to tak...

Still in on it, still working on it. even if it does not end up going through or standing up to the legal scrutiny that it will no doubt phase. >> mollie, does this fight play well with his bass? >> this is an important issue that needs to be fought for. on the merit of this information, asking a question about citizenship is something that a lot of people think important and if you look back at censuses, there were questions of this nature in all but one of them, which is the immediate previous one. but it also speaks to the need of people who are really capable of positions in government to ...

That resulted in the administrative hearing which matt had limited due process rights that resulted in a finding that matt did not violate the laws on conflict, that resulted in him being processed administratively for either conduct unbecoming or being medically retired. this new agent contact us in 2016 saying he was a lead agent and now has gone out and reinterviewed people, provided that results of interview to the prosecution and its upon that that charged him. >> martha: he's the central driving force of all this. i've got to leave it there. keep us updated. coming up, alexandria ocasio-...

Taxing or something like bernie sanders raising the estate tacttax or elizabeth warren? >> that's a place where you got inner generational wealth transfers that are not being taxed and it is hard to argue that somebody is still innovating when they are expiring or if they are receiving that money, they somehow innovated in order to achieve it. that's a place where we should be paying attention. i think we should raise the capital gains rate in this country. i think taxes can be higher on people at the very top. i think that's right. i don't think a wealth tax will work. i don't think that admi...

Declare a national emergency. so if he declares a national emergency, then will he accept a president out of this house/senate conference committee that doesn't touch the wall because he thinks he can do that administratively. he continued to say that he's going to still demand the wall and he's not ruling out a shutdown. >> he says, this is his super bowl interview with cbs. would you shut down the government again? we'll have to see what happens february 15th. >> you're not taking anything off the table? >> i'm not taking anything off the table. it's alternative. it's national emergency. it'...