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Why create this constant distraction? >> noelle makes a great point. the president should try to be bigger than all of this. she should try to set a standard of leadership and ethics and behavior we can all be proud of. but he never does. i'm never seen an administrion stepping on its message more consistently. the administration actually has to be objective about it so many things to be proud of. i mean, he may not like the tax law. but they've accomplished it. it gave a big boost to corporations all across the country, whether they deserved it or not, who knows. that should pump up the econo...

President as has been his wont has played a game here. i think it was last week that very soon he would make an announcement as to whether tapes exist. if they do exist, these tapes need to be preserved. i think we're hearing from congressional investigators and surely the administrion is hearing from special counsel bob muelleif these tapes exist that they would be considered evidence. they would need to be preserved and handed over to the appropriate investigators. >> karen, friday june 23rd could come and go and nothing is heard from the white house even though they're asking for these tape...

Democratic party should play. is your party the party of no? as i ask that, what other party do you have right now as a party to compete with this president? where republicans control both houses of congress? >> that's a fair question. i look back at the experience of the last six years, speaker b en her to come to centrist. they had to do things to make it impossible to govern, the white house and republican leadership will simply have to come to the democrats. >> if the president came to democrats, would you be willing to work with him? a lot of people don't see what the value is. >> i think...

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