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Policies and scrutinise those, we are not able to allow the prime minister's vision starting to gain traction, starting to close in on the poles, more measured and moderate and pragmatic and fiscally responsible conservative government backin responsible conservative government back in number10, responsible conservative government back in number 10, and that is the challenge members are facing. you have got members with huge adulation for what borisjohnson did as london mayor and winning the 2019 general election, but this has turned to disappointment and indeed anger as it is the activists ha...

Again? >> for me, please don't. >> john kelly said he's scared shitless. he said it. >> you're in trouble. >> he said it. >> good luck today. >> i will not have that. >> i'm a journalist. >> no, you're not. >> i've got to report what's in the news. >> i will not have that. >> so excuse me, please. he added that trump, quote, gives the appearance that he doesn't care by doing things like visiting a restaurant immediately after being charged on tuesday. that opinion was backed up by another former white house staffer, press secretary stephanie grisham who told the post it's part public relations...

There. if his crowd is small, he has the cameras come in to make it look bigger, make 50 people look like 500 people by bringing the cameras in. everybody knows how that's possible when you're shooting events with audiences and stuff, you can have a certain amount of people in there. he has small crowds often, and he needs, though, the adulation. >> you look at the miami crowd, he was telling people come to -- it was like, you know. >> that was like a smattering of people in costumes. >> that was it. >> some people in costumes. >> it was thin. >> some people thought it was a miami dolphins. >>...

Of course touching on that indictment that was unsealed earlier this week. he didn't dwell on that too much but he did actually at certain points even ridiculed the idea of this indictment and the espionage act of which he has been charged. he of course denies wrongdoing and it has to be said, the room is emptying out now butjust said, the room is emptying out now but just a said, the room is emptying out now butjust a few moments ago it was packed full of pretty hard and fans of donald trump. you would expect that, of course, you would expect a sympathetic audience here, this is a republican ...

And was really soaking in the adulation that he was getting and it was a crowd that was very receptive to the messages he was giving, whether it was on policy matters or whether it was on his belief, his claim that he is being subjected to a political witch—hunt. jess, i want to ask you because today, politico says that trump vows to continue running for president, even if he were to be convicted as part of this federal criminal indictment. what more do we know about that? yes, so that's a report i think coming out of a discussion he had on the way over between georgia here and north carolin...