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Be more advantaged in a shutdown. they will be able to survive the fallout better than republicans can. it's hard to get them to the table. that's why i think we end up with a shutdown, because for those democratic holdouts they will want to see how it plays. they will want to wait and see how is this really playing out for us. are we getting it on this, republicans getting hit on this, how is this going? and, we've never had this one before. normally have what we call the washington monument strategy, as soon as the shutdown occurs you go shut the most public, physical thing. shut the nationa...

Thinking about it. romney was maybe leaning towards it. to now i'm being told that this is something that romney wants to do. really, as late in the game as we are in running for a senate seat even in a deep red seat where the republican nominee is going to be 100% advantaged, romney rescued the salt lake city olympics in 2012. he was the face of the mormon religion in 2012. he has deep pockets. it's hard to see how anyone but mitt romney could mount a credible senate campaign right now starting from january. but it seems in very much something he wants to do. but they are being careful not to...

>> well, absolutely they do. they've -- their relationship is longstanding. i don't care what donald trump has said during the campaign. before the campaign, before it mattered, he bragged about his relationship with vladimir putin. there are all kinds of touch points there that have continued through the campaign and even after. but obviously at this point vladimir putin engaged in an effort to undermine our democracy and to sway our election towards donald trump. donald trump seems to have some strange allegiance to vladimir putin. if there's one thing he's consistent about, that's it. we're...

Donald trump seems to have some strange allegiance to vladimir putin putin, if there's one thing he is consistent about, that is it. we are learning the nature of the relationship. and by the end of this, we will get to the bottom of it. but they are both advantaged in downplaying the nature of that now, because look, there's a special council investigating a, you know, a broad range of his staffers. they are in hot water on both sides. >> i have to run, thank you. have a great weekend. when we come back, team trump has he glowing praise for the president, what does it really mean? i will ask ...

Our society means we have to make sure that we're taking care of the least advantaged of us. >> how do you think you will change the direction or work on trying to get policies behind some of the efforts that are happening privately pushing for them in washington? >> yes. >> what are you looking for? >> part of the thing we're looking for is collaboration and coordination. like i was saying earlier, fi philanthropy alone will never fix with policies have created. housing and transportation and health and mental health, you know, violence, recidivism, education, these are all issues that policy...