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Where the acting director says i'm not sure about this, he goes to doj, steven engel is the judge essentially in this case and he rules, no, you don't have to turn it over to congress. what do you think of it? >> i thought it was more a memorandum that read more like an advaocacy document. it seemed to be fighting to find the most narrow way to read every issue. but i think actually it's conceivable that it's right ipthe most narrow, technical sense. but i think that raises the much more fundamental problem, chris, and the one you touched on which is what is their responsibility outside this p...

I think there was a shakedown of the president of ukraine to get in return dirt over to president trump about political opponents and then there was a sellout of the american people, our constitution, our 2020 election and his oath of office. and then there was a cover-up of the whole thing as they decided to put the records in a lock down mode. whereas you point out there apparently are some other interesting documents hiding in there that kind of remind me of the -- if a document or some kind of prop appears in act one of a play you're going to get to see what it's all about in act 3 of the ...