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Take a stand against 76 of what americans think is right. Several republicans and democrats including my first guest tonight, california senator harris spent the weekend making statements and tweeting strong opposition to President Trump ending daca. But in trumps mind, there was the looming headline that appears in breitbart today if the president did nothing about daca, and then, of course, there was the president himself. The candidate who campaigned on ending daca had only this to say when last asked about it on friday. Should d. R. E. A. M. Ers be worried . We love the dreamers. The presi...

>> right. of course, we had a few hundred years where that fantastical impulse was kept in check by say the jeffersons and franklins of the world, and the elites and the establishment over hundreds of years, until it kind of got out of control in the last few decades and donald trump -- my point is that donald trump didn't cause anything. he saw an opportunity, because he's a con man and a grifter. he saw what happened or instinctually felt it. and empirical truth doesn't matter anymore. >> let's go back to your notion that this country was founded on fantasy. you don't mean the people we call...

Decades and donald trump -- my point is that donald trump didn't cause anything. he saw an opportunity, because he's a con man and a grifter. he saw what happened or insti t instinctually felt it. and empirical truth doesn't matter anymore. >> let's go back to your notion that this country was founded on fantasy. you don't mean the people we call the founders. they're among the most rational and sophisticated intellects of their day. >> true. >> you're talking about these adventurerers that came here, literally believing by getting off the boat in virginia, they would immediately find gold jus...