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Were brought in, the supreme court has not ruled on that. the adversarial -- >> everyone is pitting against everybody and everybody rules out sobering stories out, the fact is, someone got to make rules and legislative branch and president protect us with in partnership with congress. we have lines drawn in the sand that the president has been told that the order -- he needs to go back to the drawing board. i don't see this as adding any sort of great order to the discussion. >> well, this is not over, i can imagine that trump white house and justice department having a conversation and them t...

But they do take on a special import, i think, when we look at the degree of animosity, the aggressive attacks by the commander in chief, the steward of the american constitution. you know, when he attacks the press, he is showing a lack of faithfulness with the spirit of the first amendment. and i think it's an important reminder that american democracy doesn't function without an adversarial, without a free press. and despite all the criticisms of the media, many of them well-deserved over the course of this election, it's important to remember the vital necessity of a courageous free press ...

Aggressive attacks by the commander in chief, the steward of the american constitution. you know, when he attacks the press, he is showing a lack of faithfulness with the spirit of the first amendment. and i think it's an important reminder that american democracy doesn't function without an adversarial, without a free press. and despite all the criticisms of the media, many of them well-deserved over the course of this election, it's important to remember the vital necessity of a courageous free press covering, holding to account people who hold, as the president said, great power in this cou...

Little adversarial with the media, but jack schaefer at the politico says his presidency will be a boom for journalism. he says they ought to start considering covering his washington like a war zone. it's journalistic spring. yet, i wonder if that's really going to work out that way. michael, if it's press against trump, who do you think is going to come out on top? >> it is press against trump, for centuries we had of the partisan press, and only in the last let's say 60 years once a progressive had complete control over communications in the country, they presented themselves as being objec...

Systems? but to influence elections, as far as i know, the united states government does not hack into foreign government's electoral systems or try to influence their elections. that's highly unusual. that's a real information operation. certainly if you then take the information and make it public the way the russians did. what the russians have done is really on a whole other level of risk taking, of adversarial, very offensive operations against the united states, against our democracy. first and foremost, they were trying to very clearly make the american public have less confidence in ou...