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People, and -- ainsley: they didn't see any of that. >> they didn't see any of that. and my family, my house was always open. as you know, i come from a very big family. i was always cooking for my family, they'd drop in un announced, so my family could testify to this. they never saw anything strange at my house. ainsley: there were 16 people indicted and 10 testified against you. did they do that on purpose? >> the ones who testified, they've got a lot to gain. they could not do time. they could get reduced sentences or no sentence at all. so that's a big motivation. ainsley: why were you th...

You advicesome. >> yes. i sat down with them, and they said you could do 3-5 years and be out if you'll cooperate. we left the room, my attorney said, don't do it. he says they have no money, they have no drugs, all they have is telephone records. and since those are unrecorded calls, they can't prove that you did anything. so let's go to trial. ainsley: clearly are, bad advice -- >> very, very bad ad vice. ainsley: did he tell you what the consequences were going to be, life behind bars? >> no, i never knew that, ainsley. when i found that out was right before my sentencing. that's when i fou...

Going to be more device i, she's probably not going to find the votes. why shouldn't she follow that advicesome. >> welcome to tea party america where close counts in if horseshoes, grenades and elections. just count the ballots. that's what we need to do. it's not going to harm anyone to find out who really won this election. look, you've got to stop this insanity in 2000 with bush, they stopped counting the ballots with the supreme court, and now they're trying to do it again. just count the ballots. if he won, he won. shannon: all right. but at a time that the state is having so many battle...