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Who by all -- everyone's evaluation involved is a very seriously deadly player against the united states, your choices are, you can risk american soldiers lives to go get them, as he explained today. you can take them out with a drone and risk other people's lives in his advivicinity as a result of that, or you can to absolutely nothing. and see what happens. >> yeah. >> those are your choices. which one do you want. >> exactly. and he made the point that the osama bin laden raid, which is in a lot of ways the gold standard of going after terrorists. it was completely successful. even though t...