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Contacting the fbi working through white house counsel's office, the department of justice. i spent four years in the obama white house, and what we have seen over the last couple of weeks in terms of contacts is unprecedented. we were warned up and down about not having contact with agency officials about investigations, whether it was the fbi, i.c.e., epa, any enforcement action, we should not have any contact. the fact you have this amount of contacts between the president and the fbi director is really shocking. nongets just the president. you have reince priebus also talking to him. just ...

Committee. there was -- that the ousted fbi director was highly regarded. there was no turmoil. those kinds of statements will irritate the president and others in the white house who are saying the opposite. >> the aegents i talked to last sumner july were very upset. i wouldn't call it turmoil. >> is this status do you believe tenuous right now based on his testimony this morning? >> i don't think so. but i think that what he was -- what mccabe was referring to recently is now the same agents are saying we're busy, we're working counter terrorism, organized crime, serious crime. we just deci...