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Brand like the hummer that isn't doing so well so you drop it. i think that for the trump brand to continue on, ivanka is probably going to be the brand standard. it will be female, if she makes it through let's say the fire hoop of mule are aeller and the storm of what happens when they start talking about all the deals she was involved with. if she makes it through, the profile, the fluffy yellow hair and kind of channelling the mob yelling and chaos and vulgarity that has come to be the brand standard. >> if we look at this group with immigrant groups, grandmother, mother, first wife and no...

So ty cobb comes in, john dowd comes in and there was a whole enough tact with bob mueller, which is he is our friend, he is not our enemy. so that changed. >> the fact that shawn turner is with us as well, former director of communications for u.s. national intelligence, the fact that mueller knew about this attempt last june to actually -- by the president to fire him, he didn't go through with it because of a threatened resignation by his counsel, it gives me the sense and i suppose it gives you the sense, there's so much going on that's really come out now that we really don't know the thr...