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Preventing aeroflat from even leaving russia. that is what will put pressure inside russia. >> it's a great article in the "washington post." thank you for writing it and talking about it, greg miller. good to see you. my next guest knows ukraine inside and out. is there room for negotiation at this point between putin and zelenskyy? her assessment on where things stand today next. sfloechl n where things stand today next sfloechl does it float off into the clouds? daddy! (frustrated grunts) you might have your own theory. but maybe it's better to just let it go. meet brett from apartment 2b...

I think even people kind of that i've spoken to in the kind of very hawkish on russia democratic camp feel that she was more akin to a lobbyist, perhaps, than to a spy. and that the charges on her might be a little bit more shaky. >> okay. that was noted. so glenn, i'll amend my question. people in this role, do they tend to flip or are they given a one-way ticket on aeroflat or delta? >> brian, i was keenly interested to see today's reporting when we learned that butina was going to plead guilty. i have to admit, my first thought was she probably won't be cooperating with the prosecutors who ...

And that the charges on her might be a little bit more shaky. >> okay. that was noted. so glenn, i'll amend my question. people in this role, do they tend to flip or are they given a one-way ticket on aeroflat or delta? >> ebrian, i was keenly interested to see today's reporting when we learned that butina was going to plead guilty. i have to admit, my first thought was she probably won't be cooperating with the prosecutors who are handling this case. that is that the u.s. attorney's office for the district of columb columbia, though they're undoubtedly working closely with the special counsel...