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That are a little bit less sexy than the fast-growing tech companies that you guys take the opportunity to honor and show what they're doing for the economy. >> yeah. i think you're spot on j.j. we have the main street businesses that i just described that we do have to honor, and i think that even when we innovate, it doesn't have to be high tech. it could be something very simple, but sba has had success in all walks of life. we've helped a woman who was a veteran come in and start a simulator training program for her fellow men and women in uniform. we have seen people come in. i just recen...

As an estetician. i don't know what that is. she lost her job and did a year's probation. that probation ended weeks before she appeared with our president in the rose garden. >> doesn't anybody look at these guys anymore? >> this is a case of gross incompetence. it would be funny and part of the summer comic relief tour if it weren't all so tragic because this was an occasion where you're pushing for relief for the unemployed and you come up with a bogus unemployed lady and put her out in front of the cameras. i mean, heads should roll for this. >> yeah, she can't -- who did this? >> who did ...