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Bed this whole narrative that they ran with. and it all started with her. you kblts say one thing publicly to the american people, to the taxpayers. and then say something else deferent privately. that's what she did. the truth with what she did privately. all the evidence supported a terrorist attack. none of the evidence pointed to this video! what she said to you today was that night, we had information to claim responsibility from an al-qaida affiliated group. the next morning, they retracted that claim. so things changed. >> that's the point. it wasn't the film, right? there was no protes...

This video! what she said to you today was that night, we had information to claim responsibility from an al-qaida affiliated group. the next morning, they retracted that claim. so things changed. >> that's the point. it wasn't the film, right? there was no protest, no demonstration, no video-inspired demonstration. chris stevens walks when the attack happened. he did the reported protest because there wasn't one. >> let's just have a back-and-forth because the daughter didn't get to see it. she did believe it was a video. others believed it was a demonstration caused by a video. others got to...

State sponsors of terrorism like this. i think this is a weak response but is very similar to what we have seen in his failed foreign policy around the globe and the region for sure. >> let's shift gears and talk about what's going on in kenya, an awful situation. at least 140 students murdered after an islamist gunman burst into a university campus separating christians from muslims, killing the christians. here's the question, because a lot of people are worried here in the united states. put on your hat as a member of the homeland security committee. how vulnerable are soft targets, whether...

Directly to the united states? >> right now, isis and the other al qaeda affiliated group which is in syria, they are basically keeping their hands full doing what they are doing. we know from history from the afghan war in 80s and other kind of jihads, one it's over, these guys come home, some retire, some go on into other forms of terrorism. so history would suggest that isis in the long-term is certainly a threat to the united states. we've had hundreds of foreign fighters many from european countries go and fight. they are from so-called visa waiver countries. i think it's only prudent to ...

>> no, i think they've been doing this for some time for multiple audiences. there's an international audience. it's increasingly getting a number of foreign firefighters. they have twitter accounts, internet sites they use. it's partly means of attracting individuals to come fight the good war, the good jihad in iraq and syria for that matter. the other is an internal audience within iraq to demonstrate a domino sense that they've take is cities like mosul and on their way to baghdad. >> you have studied the rise of jihadist fighters and you point in 2013 is, when isis was still affiliated wi...