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now, her sister was a local politician and anti—racism activist, murdered five years ago. so, has that personal tragedy given her unstoppable political motivation? anielle franco, in brasilia, welcome to hardtalk. it's my pleasure to be here, and thanks for the invitation. well, it is great to have you on the show. let me ask you — when president lula offered you this very high—profile position in his government of minister of racial equality, did you have to think hard before accepting it? well, yes, because it's a position where we have to attend 58% of the population and we ...

position in his government of minister of racial equality, did you have to think hard before accepting it? well, yes, because it's a position where we have to attend 58% of the population and we have a majority of black population in brazil. but even though we have that number, we have a lot of emergencies and problems and issues that we need to take care very carefully. even though i voted for lula since my first election, i was very happy but, at the same time, i had a conversation with my parents first — just because, you know, my mum and my daddy had just lost another daughter ...

activist murdered five years ago. so, has that personal tragedy given her unstoppable political motivation? anielle franco in brasilia, welcome to hardtalk. it's my pleasure to be here, and thanks for the invitation. well, it is great to have you on the show. let me ask you — when president lula offered you this very high—profile position in his government of minister of racial equality, did you have to think hard before accepting it? well, yes, because it's a position where we have to attend 58% of the population and we have a majority of black population in brazil. but even tho...

and thanks for the invitation. well, it is great to have you on the show. let me ask you — when president lula offered you this very high—profile position in his government of minister of racial equality, did you have to think hard before accepting it? well, yes, because it's a position where we have to attend 58% of the population and we have a majority of black population in brazil. but even though we have that number, we have a lot of emergencies and problems and issues that we need to take care very carefully. even though i voted for lula since my first election, i was very h...

thank you. good to see you again, stephen. you just heard me talk about india's current place in the world, the most populous nation, a growing economy, a stable government. would you agree that india right now is in a good place? it's not in a bad place in overall terms. that is that it's a country, it has always been, i think, a country to be reckoned with on the world stage, but now it's number one in global population, it's number three in purchasing power parity terms in the overall gdp, number five in dollar terms. it's a country of some substance. it does have free and fair el...