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Ongoing. they are still trying to get information about exactly what these ties are all about and whether this was business, whether this was campaign business. that we still don't know. but i think that the connections, at least the contacts with russian intelligence is significant. >> well, one of the things that was pretty stored in a pretty extraordinary story is that paul manafort's reaction to your reporting was to say it absurd, he has no idea what you're referring to, he's never knowingly spoken to russian intelligence officers. and then he said it not like these people wear badges tha...

>> well, one of the things that was pretty stored in a pretty extraordinary story is that paul manafort's reaction to your reporting was to say it absurd, he has no idea what you're referring to, he's never knowingly spoken to russian intelligence officers. and then he said it not like these people wear badges that say "i'm a russian intelligence officer." this is a guy who has done business in ukraine and russian aficionados in ukraine for years. >> it is hard to know. he's a person who knows the region very well. at the same time, as we say in our story, that the intelligence services in tho...

[ men speaking italian ] >> anthony: anthony and marco. a couple of sicilians and aficionados of macelleria equina. >> marco: it's one of the other side, famous, you know, for all families of mafia, you know that growin crime organization here. >> anthony: right here? >> marco: yeah, yeah. yeah. yeah. nowadays seems to be maybe like a bit more quiet, because they are all getting arrested, so they prefer to sell meat. >> anthony: ah. >> marco: against drugs. >> anthony: so right over there you have -- you can bet on a horse? >> marco: you can bet horses, yes. people like to bet horse, and here ...

>> anthony: ah, the good ol' days. >> daniel: yeah, well. >> anthony: why lyon? why here? look at the fundamentals, the things the lyonnais think of as birthrights. the right for instance to eat delicious cured pork in unimaginably delicious forms. >> daniel: the art of charcuterie, lyonnais can't live without it. >> anthony: look at this. terrine, pate, sausages, rillette, it's an art that's revered here and widely enjoyed. >> daniel: monsieur reynon. >> reynon: bonjour. >> daniel: merci. tony. >> anthony: bonjour, monsieur. tony. >> chef: tony. >> anthony: and few names garner more respect f...

I smell rainbow dash. [ men speaking italian ] >> anthony: anthony and marco. a couple of sicilians and aficionados of macelleria equina. >> marco: it's one of the other side, famous, you know, for all families of mafia, you know that grows in crime organization here. >> anthony: right here? >> marco: yeah, yeah. yeah. yeah. nowadays seems to be maybe like a bit more quiet, because they are all getting arrested, so they prefer to sell meat. >> anthony: ah. >> marco: against drugs. >> anthony: so right over there you have -- you can bet on a horse? >> marco: you can bet horses, yes.