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Believe was that people in the administration, people behind me had used the irs to go after political enemies. it would have been a stupid idea if you're also going after your enemies if you're also going after your political allies alongside of them. it seems like this punctured a hole in the scandal that was brewing around the irs. >> michael, what evidence is extant now that still exists now that there was a political scandal here? >> chris, i don't think there really has been any evidence of that confirms or afirps that idea that this was in fact a political scandal orchestrated out of th...