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Do that, he zruz the bully pulpit or will have the bully pulpit of the presidency. and as steve schmidt certainly implied and i think was saying, that's a powerful thing. if you get a phone call from the president of the united states saying don't do this, you know, you have to pay attention, even if that president is donald trump and even if the decision is already made. enough of those phone calls and that just becomes a frkt. it becomes another data point. it becomes something that's in a ceo's mind that, okay, we're going to do this, or i'm going to get a phone call. or maybe there's anoth...

Saying don't do this, you know, you have to pay attention, even if that president is donald trump and even if the decision is already made. enough of those phone calls and that just becomes a frkt. it becomes another data point. it becomes something that's in a ceo's mind that, okay, we're going to do this, or i'm going to get a phone call. or maybe there's another way to, you know, another way to handle the issue we're trying to deal with here. maybe we can compensate by creating some jobs in the u.s. that's ideally how this approach from trump will work out. we'll have to see. >> here's the ...

Telling us moments ago, how sure can we be about this debris, given the amount of garbage, shall we say, that falls into the south indian ocean that's moved around? >> that is an enormously challenging task that they have, because the evidence which was described today, the mrsat data, gets us over the indian ocean, where it seems now the aircraft went down, but this is a vast, vast area and a very inhospitable area, harsh area, when it comes to searching, so having identified, they believe, that this is where the aircraft came down, it doesn't get away from the fact the search for the debris ...