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I think they're trying to stretch out the clock here. the substance of this is really bad for trump, and he looks worse and worse. now, i do not -- i think in the first quarter it is going to get worse for him legally. maybe criminal referrals out of the january 6th committee. i think they're appropriate. but in the larger picture, it is not what the midterm elections will hinge on. if you like trump, you're going to think, it is part of the conspiracy. if you don't like trump, you're going to get even more enraged. both sides might have a turnout advantage from that. but i think bigger forces...

>> so, neal, i come back to the legal thing again, and i want to read to you just a little bit more from the tribe, ayer, and aftergut op-ed. they say there's a huge role here for the attorney general, merrick garland, to be playing and he's not playing it. let me read what they say. yet, there are no signs, at least in media reports, that the attorney general is building a case against the individuals, the one we talked about earlier, including donald trump, mark meadows, et cetera, no interviews with top administration officials, no reports of attempts to persuade the foot soldiers to turnin...