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So theres no training behind this. Theres no standard attack in any of this. So, actually, we can see it going any way. But i think the i think the longer it goes on without violence the more likely there wont be any. Welcome back, everybody. Im john vause at the cnn center. Im natalie allen. Thank you for joining us. Weve been here several hours with this breaking news out of australia. And we will continue to bring you the latest now. And wed like to welcome our viewers in the United States and all around the world. Wed like to give you the update now. A gunman is Still Holding an unknown nu...

And facebook by the hostages inside. what was interesting was she couldn't bring herself to call the people being held hostages. he had stopped herself from saying that. we should note it's coming up on 7:25 p.m. local time in sydney. all of this has been going on for nine hours and 40 minutes. we're coming up to our tenth hour. >> and want to point out this video we're seeing right here, that is the gunman and we've also should h. video as you know of the hostages putting their haunds on the glass. that was much earlier. that was hours ago before police cleared off a wider area and had the me...