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Obviously, the president privy to classified information, to communications between secretary of state pompeo and the north koreans could know more than we know at this time, but one of the biggest tells to know whether north korea is really going to change its behavior over time and get around to cbid alt some point is how they treat their own people. the only thing that props up the kim regime, and they're all about self-preservation, is the nuclear program. the minute they denuclearize in a real way is the minute we focus in a real way on the fact they starve their own people and run a rack...

Especially those who are in farm rich states, they are being targeted directly because of where they are by the chinese. the chinese and, jim, you know this better than anyone, you understand that country and how it works. they are focused on the political situation here, and they're trying to hit the president and hit the republican party where it hurts the most, and that is in key swing districts. so that's for sure going to be part of the president's audience. to try to reassure people back home, but also to call out the chinese, to say i know what you're trying to do here. and we're not go...

President, hassan rouhani. you heard the president both on camera and earlier today in his tweets seeming to leave the door open to a possible meeting with the iranian president at some time. based on your conversations, is rouhani open to meeting with trump? >> well, jim, here's the thing. this specific question to rouhani was based on a specific tweet by president trump and the specific thing he just said just then, which was that he said despite repeated requests, implying that the iranians had made repeated requests to meet, that he had no plans to meet. and as you know, he went on to say ...

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