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Shutdown. president trump has scheduled a trip to the southern border on thursday with the full expectation and probably the desire that the shutdown is still a shutdown, but the big problem looming for president trump and republicans in congress if they do set a record with this shutdown is that 800,000 federal workers will miss their first payday on friday. federal workers get their paychecks twice a month and friday is their first payday of the shutdown. in government shutdowns, nonessential workers are not allowed to report for work because it is illegal for the government to force them to...

Work with this president. this president needs to take the border conversation out of this deal, accept the bill that was just introduced, approve it. let's have a civil conversation about this wall. but do not put this on the backs of democrats and american people. for two weeks who are not working. i think therein lies what you guys are missing. >> we heard federal workers say they're being used as pawns. >> they're not pawns. i don't think anybody's accusing them of leverage. >> government opened, government closed? >> i do think they're suffering. i don't think there's anybody in the white...

African-americans. pete: it's a tap dance she can't win. when you in the middle of identity politics some identity is going to be offended. ed: only had the job two or three days. it will get interesting. the president refusing to back down on the fight for our southern border. >> we won't be opening until it is solved. we think this is a much bigger problem. the border is a much bigger problem and dangerous problem. it's a problem of national security. ed: up next an angel mom whose son was tragically killed by illegal immigrant and how president trump is giving her family, she says, a voice,...