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>> i think right now the focus is to ensure the russian conventional offensive power is -- is atrited enough where they can't reach out on the ground and launch photographsive, aggressions or whatever. i was in moscow in 2014. we saw it the first time. that was big but minor compared to what's going on. and then there is georgia. every nation is allowed -- entitled to defensive forces. but the offensive forces of -- following aaggression and all that, i think that's probably what it means. and, again, we're just going to have to see what happens. >> thank you, general. i appreciate you joining...

Aggressions in the future. >> and jake, just to give you an idea about some of the things the russians have put out there to try to discredit some of the things the ukrainians are doing, that investigation, they said that the bodies there are fake. obviously that's a false claim, and theyulse said all the people were alive when the russians left and were probably killed by the ukrainians even though satellite images show the exact opposite to be true, and today, vladimir putin at the rocket plant you saw in the report, he also said he believes all of the images coming out of bucha are fake as ...

Responsible for this war. that's why we do everything to fix -- to document evidences, but we are here in ukraine and actually understand who is responsible for all of this. >> reporter: the investigators' work is complicated by the fact that the war is still going on, and they can't reach many devastated areas like the encircled city of mariupol, where ukraine's president says tens of thousands have been killed. but iryna says no matter how long it takes, she will press on. >> it's actually extremely important because if we will be successful as a prosecute trix, i can be sure we can stop suc...

Fix, to document evidence, but we're here in ukraine and actually understand who is responsible for all of this. >> reporter: the investigators' work is complicated by the fact that the war is still going on, and they can't reach many devastated areas like the encircled city of mariupol where ukraine's president says tens of thousands have been killed. but irina venedictova said no matter how long it takes, she will press on. >> it's extremely important because if we will be successful as prosecutors, i assure that we can stop such aggressions in the future. >> reporter: fred pleitgen, cnn, bu...

Organization. good to have you here. i wish it was under different circumstances. let's talk about vladimir. he is now under arrest and under police orders. i know you spoke to him this morning. how is he doing? >> good morning, bianna, and thank you so much for giving me the opportunity to speak out for my husband who has been speaking out fiercely against so many russian aggressions over the years. i did speak to him this morning, and he sounded optimistic, he really does. and he said not to lose faith. he told me that we would prevail even if our path to freedom is much more dangerous, much...