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That -- he tells agholoroff about his plans to run for president. when you connect the dots and see the personal relationships there, you know, it's -- obviously it raises the sort of questions that you just raised. >> michael, for 30 years now president trump wanted to build in moscow. never got it done. when did he come the closest and why did the deal fall apart? >> well, there's that first trump tower project which i have just been talking about with the agholoroffs, february of 2014, ivanka goes to moscow to look for properties, what's happening at this time? putin is annexing crimea, he'...

Relationship with the agholoroffs. >> as i read the book i'm very dubious of the idea that the meeting took place at trump tower and you talk about a second meeting that that could have taken place without the president being notified. he knew the personalities in the room. it's strains cre duality that they wouldn't have said, we're about to have this meeting. >> right. as you point out we disclosed in the book and earlier trump -- an earlier trump tower meeting that took place with trump himself and emma agholoroff and other key players. that's january 15th. they go to trump tower and meet w...