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Feeling alienated by this party because of rhetoric from this president. >> i think we're getting a big turnout of women running for office this year. do you expect a big turnout by women at the polls this november? >> i think there's certainly some indication if you look at some of the results in alabama, it's a special election, you don't want to take away too many implications. there's a left base now activated and a lot of women tend to lean democratic. but then there's also i think men of color who obviously made a difference in a lot of elections. that's an interesting line you're going ...

Don't want to take away too many implications. there's a left base now activated and a lot of women tend to lean democratic. but then there's also i think men of color who obviously made a difference in a lot of elections. that's an interesting line you're going to probably see play a very important role. >> this is the oldest argument. i did work in politics for years. i've argueded you need an opposition message. it's not good muff to bet against the bank or city hall. do the democrats have a message for '18? >> remember what the israeli diplomat said about the palestinians, they never miss ...

Fights happen and theatrics happen. they may be the ones that can draw that attention. >> it's possible. you were talking a little bit earlier about how hillary clinton does have quiet a bit potentially to lose. the reality is that's just the set of expectations that go along with being a frontrunner, especially a frontrunner so dominant as she has been despite the stumbles and problems, whether it's benghazi. if she makes a mistake, she's going to contribute to the sense there are problems in had her campaign. as we're waiting for joe biden to make a decision, that's going to add fuel to the ...