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Realize that right now you can't approach nations like ukraine or moldova or these areas that haven't become part of nato and just lose a lot of words to talk about democracy and civil society and the health and importance of that. if they really want to put their chips in, they need to gather their resources, invest heavily in these countries and put their economic stakes into these countries as opposed to military ones. that's not a function of sanctions. that's showing you're going to really invest deeply in the success of ukraine. we're not doing that. so a success would be an agraemt of o...

Courage, that will stand up. he made the graemt statement that in a free country, when telling the truth, you can get charged with treason, we're in big trouble. >> even if you've stolen the information? >> stolen information? excuse me, we all pay taxes. all that information is paid for by my tax dollars. i have every right to know ho how my taxes are spent, how every single penny is spent. i have the right to know that. they're using my money. >> you served in the money. would you have been absolutely happy for every private memo involving your navy seal to come out. >> no. no. there's a dif...

>> absolutely. if you would have continued with that statement, representative paul, i dedicated his book to him. he's the only one that has the courage, that will stand up. he made the graemt statement that in a free country, when telling the truth, you can get charged with treason, we're in big trouble. >> even if you've stolen the information? >> stolen information? excuse me, we all pay taxes. all that information is paid for by my tax dollars. i have every right to know ho how my taxes are spent, how every single penny is spent. i have the right to know that. they're using my money. >> yo...